Does praying to Mary and the Saints draw you away from, or towards, Jesus? Dr. Gavin Ortlund claims that Medieval Catholics’ prayers to Mary prove that they viewed Jesus as far off, and thus needed to appeal to Mary and the Saints. But what do actual Medieval historians - and the writings of the Medieval Catholics themselves - have to say on the subject?

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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - overview
4:28 - Starting Framework
10:33 - Gavin’s Objections
13:06 - The Stereotype effect
21:29 - Interpretation notes
28:19 - Response to Gavin
30:05 - Medieval Christo-centrism
46:11 - Intercession effects
50:15 - Can the Saints Saves us
57:20 - Nice Saints, Mean God?